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It is my first episode with an interview guest. I am interviewing a very special person, Caroline Mohr, a good friend and an amazing coach. We are talking about energies and how important our emotional energies are for healing and growth. We discuss why it is so difficult to change your mindset. Caroline shared great resources on how to overcome challenges and Change your Mindset, Change your Life.
Caroline is a motivational speaker and former golf professional from Sweden. Her story of surviving a natural disaster, cancer, losing her leg and making an incredible comeback, is a great example of our potential to grow through challenges. Caroline has been featured in Forbes, The Times and ESPN and has spoken to global business. She inspires you to grow through challenges. By sharing unique strategies for building a strong mental muscles, becoming resilient and how to get the most out of life.
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How I help my clients to have more energy is truly to work a lot with their mindset and their focus. I believe there are two aspects of energy. One is basically emotional, as in your mindset part, and one’s physical. So if I move back a bit to when I was playing golf professionally, it was so important that I really kept to a good routine and that I was able to manage my emotions. Those two were the two key parts for keeping my energy up over a long time. And also over like tough periods when you’re not feeling that great. So I work with my clients to manage their focus.
Because if I would ask you right now to look around in the room and point out, for example, green details. And you would do so for 10 seconds, and then I’d ask you to close your eyes, and then I would like to know where in the room are the red details. You maybe would be able to tell me that.
Maybe you know your room. Maybe you know it so well that you know all the details. But surprisingly, a lot of people even know their rooms really good, when they get into this competition mode, are focusing really hard on one thing, the brain has to filter out all the rest because it’s not important where the red details are.
And that’s how I try to explain how strong our focus can be when we set our minds on something. But it’s also, of course, in the other way. If we get stuck in obstacles like we only see the obstacles, but we don’t see the opportunities around us.
It’s about the focus. And you were talking about the two, that emotional energy and the physical energy.
So when we’re working, we’re focused mostly on the mindset, on the emotional part. That’s usually the exercises that you are not aware of. You may be aware of that when you jump up and down or you dance to your favourite song. It’s more like physical energy. Or when you exercise. A lot of people say: “When I need more energy, I just need to go out and run, because it clears my head, and I feel much better in my body.” So that’s more known to people. It’s always a combination of how you think and focus and what you actually do, physically.
Perfect. Yes. Of course. It makes complete sense, because we are much more aware of our body and how to move it and how sometimes we are low in energy, and then sometimes we’re up in energy, but emotionally, we’re so used to it, right? I mean, we haven’t learned that anywhere.
No, we haven’t. You talk about that a lot, about frequencies and how things move and so on, but every emotion has its own wave. That’s how I look at it. If I ask a client to explain, for example, “If you feel happy, so deep happiness to your core, where is that feeling in your body?” They’re like, “What? Is that feeling in my body?”
If you find it to be somewhere in your body, where would it be? And maybe they say their chest or it’s exploding everywhere. They could identify how that feeling moves for them. That’s really interesting if you compare that to, for example, when I feel down, it’s another type of energy that maybe sits in my head then. I mean, it’s not always according to research, it’s more the personal experience of every emotion, but still recognizing how that actually affects your body and your state at the moment.
I would say that the most common one from my clients is really the satisfaction of being in charge, not being a victim for your surrounding or for how you feel, because that’s also really common that we think we’re sad, and it’s valid to be sad. It’s totally okay to be sad, but sometimes you can think that because you’re sad, you fall victim to that feeling and you cannot change it.
that’s where I see the biggest change and shift for my clients, is really, “Okay. I’m in charge of my experience. I’m in charge of my state, and I can be the driver in this car, and I don’t have to sit in the passenger seat,” which results in a lot of different things. For example, being more confident at work because you feel like, “Okay, I’m in charge.” (Episode 16)
One of my clients said, ‘I was always thinking about if I’m going to meet the right person,’ then she was not having great experiences with dating guys. But after working together for a while, she turned that into, when I’m going to meet somebody? And she had a much more positive outlook on life, and she was actually daring and had the courage to ask more. So that was a really cool change.
I know what you’re talking about, you’re on this road and you’re starting, and then suddenly you come to a moment like, “Oh, I do it like before.” I think I usually explain it in a way like this: When the train has been running in a certain way, on a certain path for 20 years, and we suddenly changed the trail of the train to run on another path, like the train is really heavy, it has a lot of power when it pushes through.
So the start can be really powerful, but then suddenly if we don’t align ourselves with that future that we want to create, that new change, and truly, truly, truly, truly integrate that in our life, it’s really easy that this powerful train just goes back into the old trail. I think that moment comes when you’re high on the oxytocin or dopamine where the motivation is really high.
It always drops. Always, always, always. It always drops. It’s like the law of gravity. It’s also our motivation that always drops. When it drops, finding the resources is so important to keep going. I believe this is somewhere where a lot of people then get stuck because it drops. And we maybe see the obstacles, we are faced with our beliefs about that, “Oh, this is trickier than I thought, or harder than I expected when I started, because I was so full of energy, and now I’m not anymore.” And you gaze back to where you came from, and that is more attractive than finding the resources and taking new action to go for the new one, like the new goal, or the new change, because it’s unknown.
It’s a little bit like flipping the pancake. If life is not happening to you, but for you, what’s the gift right now? I know that this could be a very provocative question when you feel like everything is going against you,. You have so much resistance and there are so many obstacles and you should yourself that question. But I asked myself that question when I was going to amputate my leg because I was diagnosed with cancer in my knee. I had three weeks to prepare for the surgery. Basically, I was at the bottom. I was having so many doubts about where I was going, what I was doing, what life was going to be like to live life now on one leg and getting healthy and all of those things. But it came to a moment when I had to ask myself these hard questions:
“Okay, Caroline. Is this an opportunity for growth?” Or, “Caroline, if this is a chance to grow in a certain direction, what can that be?”
I was flipping that pancake and started to see, “Okay, actually, I’m going to end up having half price foot care.”
Yeah. I always go to the gym and I train my arms. But hopping around on crutches, I don’t need to train my arms. I would get it daily. It was like flipping the perspective to see my resources and what I had and the people that I had. For sure I couldn’t do this alone but to see, “Okay, I’m not alone in this. I have the people. I have a roof over my head. All the basic stuff. I can put food on my plate. I can put clothes on my body by myself.”
Really, I had to go to all of those kinds of levels to see everything I had. I realized, “Wow, I’m so rich right now, and that lifts me up to tackle that obstacle that is in front of me. So what can I do with all of those resources that I have? What is the first step that I want to do?”
I want to prepare for this change. I want to reach out to these people, or am I missing somebody in my life that could give me this perspective. And I reached out to that person, and then I was directly steering my train into the track that I wanted to go. I did not gaze back and put the blanket over my head and just said, “I’m not going to deal with this.” So it is like a moment of facing those hard questions. But the thing is when you’re in it, I’m so convinced you can do it.
I really think it’s a combination of that because the shift happened first in my head. I mean, I’m all about mindset. Speaking about energy in your podcast right now, it’s the combination of that emotional management and physical energy. Taking action became, for me, like the best result or progress from what happened in my head. Then together made me feel more confident, even though, to an external eye, you would say, “Oh, Caroline, you’re in a shitty position.” I would 100% agree with that, but somehow with that combination, I found that confidence.
Yeah. So, taking the next steps, not just stay in our head, in our emotions. Actually putting as well the first few steps in front of it and actions in the real world in our body can actually help us to get moving and to see some early results, some quick wins that get us to keep going.
And it doesn’t need to be hard things. It can be really easy things, just like you say, quick wins, because these are the best. When you start to take action, don’t make it too hard. Start to take action and make quick wins that you can already cross off from your to-do list. Progress is linked to satisfaction, happiness, and joy that we’re constantly evolving.
I really like affirmations. I truly do. And I usually change them from time to time, depending on how I feel. But one sentence that is so important to me, also connected to the time when I was going through these changes is, “Fear less, live more.” It’s so simple, it’s maybe cheesy.
It reminds me of, “Okay. Continue living life to the fullest the way you want to live.” I have it on my desk at home. And I guess that helps me keep my energy. At least it’s like a reminder, first in my head, and then I do something, physically, that brings the energy.
I usually believe that fear is usually much more in my head (Episode 30) than it is actually in real life. A lot of us are very quick in judging something. Or pre-judging how something is going to go. We might be thinking: “This is not going to work out so well.” And we build up this fantasy that becomes an obstacle. It’s so important when it comes to mindset and managing not only our emotions but also our thoughts.
To not let them run wild, like wild horses on a field, because they go crazy. Wild horses on the field, they’re having a lot of fun, they’re just running. And if you’re trying to manage your thoughts at the same time that you’re letting them loose. And they go all over the place, it’s really, really hard. That would be my answer to how we can fear less, basically not putting these scenarios up.
We’re a little bit primed to think that something bad is going to happen when something is good. You watch this typical Hollywood movie of a family that drives in a car together, there are two parents, two kids. And they’re all happy and they’re just driving. And you think like, “No, I can’t be that good. They’re probably going to end up in an accident. Something’s going to happen, or their house is going to be robbed me while they’re gone.” That’s the way it happens in the movie.
When things are going too well or going good, that there must be something wrong. And I think that without being an expert in the brain, I mean, the monkey mind and this part of our brains that is constantly looking for the tiger around the corner. That part of our brain is so old and it should not just run our life. And I think that’s where a lot of fear comes from.
This is also a little bit like the affirmations. This is also changing, because I’m constantly on the go for new information, of course. But there are some people that I always go back to, and I love the work of Tony Robbins, and also Dr Joe Dispenza.
And I get inspired by my clients. I don’t see it just as a one-way street. I always try to keep my senses open when I work with them. And as much as I guide them or help them through exercises and work with them, they also guide me in a way that they helped me to see different perspectives. That is really, really cool when I realized that they’re going through a special phase in their life. And with a completely different perspective that I maybe knew, but I didn’t discover it so much before.
Okay. Before we come to the end, I want to ask you something. If I ask you to contribute to a book that is about how to raise your energy for a more joyful life. And I ask you to give one statement or one wisdom that should be in that book. What would you want to give to the world about what they can do? What they should be knowing about energy? And how to have a more joyful life, what would that one thing be?
I would say that managing your state is your energy to life. I would describe how you manage your states to get more energy in your life. So the state is basically the result of your thoughts, your emotions, and your body language. The state is a result of how you feel, how you think and how your body language.
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